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Setup ID
Tuner
Make
Car
Model Year
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2974
2004
Road Setup
12705
06/21/2005 2:13 AM
09/25/2007 7:41 PM
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| Equipment Selection |
| Muffler |
Racing |
Suspension |
Racing |
| Racing Chip |
Normal |
Transmission |
Full Customize |
| NA Tune |
None |
Clutch |
Standard |
| Front Tires |
R3 - Medium |
Flywheel |
Standard |
| Rear Tires |
R3 - Medium |
Carbon Driveshaft |
None |
| Nitrous |
None
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GT Auto - Wing |
None
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| Turbine Kit |
None |
Limited Slip |
Full Customize |
| Intercooler |
None |
AYC |
None |
| Supercharger |
None
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VCD |
None |
| Brakes |
Normal |
Weight Reduction |
None |
| Brake Controller |
Equipped |
Increase Rigidity |
None
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| Settings |
| Setup Item |
Front |
Rear |
Setup Item |
Front |
Rear |
| Spring Rate |
20.0 |
19.0 |
Stabilizers |
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| Ride Height |
45 |
45 |
Brake Balance |
9 |
8 |
| Shock Absorbers |
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Downforce |
75 |
105 |
| Shock Bound |
9 |
10 |
LSD Init. Torque |
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10 |
| Shock Rebound |
10 |
10 |
LSD Acceleration |
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30 |
| Camber Angle |
1.0 |
0.5 |
LSD Deceleration |
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10 |
| Toe Angle |
0 |
0 |
Nitrous
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| Gear Ratios |
| 1st |
2nd |
3rd |
4th |
5th |
6th |
Final |
Auto Set |
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18
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| Driving Aids / Other |
ASM
Oversteer |
ASM
Understeer |
TCS |
Ballast
Balance |
Ballast
Weight |
AYC |
VCD |
| 0 |
0 |
4
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0 |
0 |
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| Notes |
This setup is for fast lap times and is best used when driving in A-Spec, ie not computer Ai controlled. Because tire wear is not the best. But it will produce the fastest lap times.
Please note this setup willl be difficult to control and if you're not careful with the throttle, you will loose the rear end. This car is tuned to the limit for the fastest possible lap times.
If you want a setup which conserves tire wear, check out my other F1 setup for B-Spec.
Important note: Please adjust the gear ratio depending on the track you are on. In street tracks like Cote d Azur, New York and Tokyo - use gear ratio auto set to 14. Other high speed tracks can use 18 or 17.
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Joined:
08/27/2001
Last on:
01/05/2009
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Post #1 - Posted 06/21/2005 7:35 AM
Fumes - try re-entering your downforce settings.
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08/21/2003
Last on:
08/17/2008
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Hey
Post #2 - Posted 06/21/2005 12:21 PM
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Hey Fumes, I have always followed your setups and is nice to see you here in GT4 now. I've been waiting for a place that does setups for GT4 until today. Also, props to Kerr for making all of this possible for us fanatics of the GT world. Hey, somebody's got to do it. Thanks Kerr. And Fumes, keep those setups coming and take care.
Peace!
Peace,
Burrito
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06/21/2005
Last on:
12/28/2008
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TaHNX
Post #3 - Posted 06/21/2005 4:25 PM
hey thanx fumes and kerr ive been using gt4 tune shop to pass time there are some good tuners there that i think kerr should check out like Rac3Rx
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07/04/2005
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Post #4 - Posted 06/21/2005 6:30 PM
this setup is good cept its to loose i keep spining out, how would i tighten it up some
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08/27/2001
Last on:
01/05/2009
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Post #5 - Posted 06/21/2005 7:17 PM
I know there are some good tuners over at gt4tuneshop, and I encourage anyone who would like to post their setups on GTVault to do so. Technically speaking, gt4tuneshop pales in comparison to GTVault. There are many features at GTVault that simply cannot be replicated with a forum based solution. From a community perspective, the tight control the mods have over what is considered an "official" setup can be stifling as well.
BTW - the image tag in your sig appears to be mistyped.
LordPhoenix wrote: hey thanx fumes and kerr ive been using gt4 tune shop to pass time there are some good tuners there that i think kerr should check out like Rac3Rx |
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09/15/2003
Last on:
11/17/2008
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Post #6 - Posted 06/22/2005 12:14 PM
Last time I checked out gt4tuneshop you had to be a registered member just to look at the forum! What kind of crap is that? Now if I am wrong than I apologize, but till someone drops me a link to show otherwise I feel they have just insulted the entire GT community!
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Last on:
06/26/2005
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Post #7 - Posted 06/22/2005 2:58 PM
Great setup, is there anything that can be done to get an extra tire out of the laps even if it means sacrificing a little speed?
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06/23/2005
Last on:
01/05/2007
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Post #8 - Updated 06/23/2005 8:54 AM
DTW wrote: Last time I checked out gt4tuneshop you had to be a registered member just to look at the forum! What kind of crap is that? Now if I am wrong than I apologize, but till someone drops me a link to show otherwise I feel they have just insulted the entire GT community!
nope soz dood you are wrong
pop over and check us out http://www.gt4tuneshop.freecwh.com/phpBB2/
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Post #9 - Posted 06/23/2005 9:10 AM
Cool, then I quote myself:
DTW wrote: ...if I am wrong than I apologize...
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06/23/2005
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Post #10 - Posted 06/23/2005 2:26 PM
DTW wrote:
Cool, then I quote myself:
DTW wrote: ...if I am wrong than I apologize...
apology accepted 
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11/22/2001
Last on:
01/04/2009
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SirViper and Towersmith
Post #11 - Posted 06/23/2005 7:44 PM
towersmith wrote: Great setup, is there anything that can be done to get an extra tire out of the laps even if it means sacrificing a little speed?
SirViper and Towersmith,
This setup is tuned to the limits. It will give you fast lap times, but you cannot drive with the throttle on full 100% all the time. You need to learn how to reduce throttle around some corners.
This setup is fast but sacrifices a tight rear end. You can't have both a fast car and easy controlability in tuning race cars. There is always a sacrifice. Tire wear is another sacrifice.
This setup is great for gaining the pole positions in races. then switching to my Bspec setup for long endurance races.
If you would like a setup that is more tire friendly and whose rear end is not as loose, check out my other F1 setup for GT4.
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03/17/2005
Last on:
03/16/2006
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Post #12 - Posted 06/24/2005 1:19 AM
Great setup as always!! You made GT3 a hole new game for me and I have been waiting for more great setups for GT4. Could you do settings for the BMW M3 GTR Race Car '01? Thanks for all your great settings!
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09/07/2002
Last on:
06/26/2005
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Post #13 - Posted 06/24/2005 8:24 AM
Fumes wrote: towersmith wrote: Great setup, is there anything that can be done to get an extra tire out of the laps even if it means sacrificing a little speed?
SirViper and Towersmith,
This setup is tuned to the limits. It will give you fast lap times, but you cannot drive with the throttle on full 100% all the time. You need to learn how to reduce throttle around some corners.
This setup is fast but sacrifices a tight rear end. You can't have both a fast car and easy controlability in tuning race cars. There is always a sacrifice. Tire wear is another sacrifice.
This setup is great for gaining the pole positions in races. then switching to my Bspec setup for long endurance races.
If you would like a setup that is more tire friendly and whose rear end is not as loose, check out my other F1 setup for GT4.
For sure, thanks Fumes. I'll compare the two setups and make a few little adjustments to better suit running the FGT. I'm still pretty new to trying to tune the cars effectively, so seeing what you do differently to get consistency/longer tire wear vs. hotlap setup should teach me some a few more things. I was of course just looking for a very quick and easy adjustment, that wouldn't require any time or effort on my part, but of coruse that is never the case in GT4  Keep up the good work
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03/23/2004
Last on:
10/29/2007
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Post #14 - Posted 06/25/2005 1:29 AM
Fumes since you've got email disabled can you please check out my 350z setup and try it out? I wanna get a little constructive criticism if possible.
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06/25/2005
Last on:
09/03/2006
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Post #15 - Posted 06/25/2005 6:42 AM
How can I print out the race set ups so that all I get is the set up info .You used to be able to do it on the gt3 site
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08/27/2001
Last on:
01/05/2009
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Post #16 - Posted 06/25/2005 8:28 AM
bigend wrote: How can I print out the race set ups so that all I get is the set up info .You used to be able to do it on the gt3 site
I don't have a like feature enabled in the new GTVault yet, but it's on my list. Sorry!
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Last on:
01/09/2009
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Post #17 - Posted 06/26/2005 9:21 PM
I find this car to be quite a handful to drive, but I think most of that attributes to how wild the car naturally seems to be! Do check your brake settings though: from what I understand, the brake balance controller controls the strength of the ABS. So essentially, higher values mean longer braking distances with more control and less lockup. I found the default 3/3 values better in general, but surely your expertise can refine things even further.
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Post #18 - Posted 06/27/2005 8:29 AM
-rob- wrote: Do check your brake settings though: from what I understand, the brake balance controller controls the strength of the ABS. So essentially, higher values mean longer braking distances with more control and less lockup.
Not really, higher values mean increased chance of lock-up, less control, but shorter stopping distance. Fumes most likely used the increased front brake force to induce a bit of brake understeer and help turn the car. This is a very good trick that works well because it shifts the weight to the front by forcing the front to stop more quickly than the back. Think of it as someone slamming the back end of a car into the front end, that is where all the weight would go.
As far as ABS goes I don’t know. I have heard debates that it is modeled and ones that it’s not, and good points made on both sides. As for me I think it is modeled in the game, but when I have my DB9 screaming at 200 down a straight I don’t care what is and isn’t modeled just so long as it freaking stops! 
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01/09/2009
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Post #19 - Posted 06/27/2005 10:57 AM
DTW wrote: -rob- wrote: Do check your brake settings though: from what I understand, the brake balance controller controls the strength of the ABS. So essentially, higher values mean longer braking distances with more control and less lockup.
Not really, higher values mean increased chance of lock-up, less control, but shorter stopping distance. Fumes most likely used the increased front brake force to induce a bit of brake understeer and help turn the car. This is a very good trick that works well because it shifts the weight to the front by forcing the front to stop more quickly than the back. Think of it as someone slamming the back end of a car into the front end, that is where all the weight would go.
As far as ABS goes I don’t know. I have heard debates that it is modeled and ones that it’s not, and good points made on both sides. As for me I think it is modeled in the game, but when I have my DB9 screaming at 200 down a straight I don’t care what is and isn’t modeled just so long as it freaking stops!
Hmm, I tested this theory on the Test Course with the Sauber C9 and found that values of 24/24 (or whatever the maximum value is) resulted in very long stopping distances while 1/1 resulted in a short, screeching halt. I even corrected the car's excessive understeer under braking by increasing the brakes from 3/3 to 7/7.
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Post #20 - Posted 06/27/2005 11:28 AM
On a completely separate topic: Wow I see a potential problem with the ability to quote.
Right –rob- that is what I would expect from brake settings that high. What I didn’t say (thought it was understood) is that there is a point for every car in GT4 where you pass the point of lock-up and enter the “oh crap” zone! That is also the main reason I feel ABS is modeled in the game. With a setting of 24/24 you have gone way past the “oh crap” zone and entered the “they’ve gone plaid” zone!
First off you will have to pick a test track that has a sharp bend, next you will have to play with the brakes step by step. If you look into Fumes tuning guide it discusses this same issue. I agree with that portion of his guide, when I am doing a setup the lock-up point is what I am looking for. To correctly do the test you are trying to run you would need to find that lock-up point then (in my opinion) back off the front brake by one click. Now you can test the stopping power against 1/1 or 3/3 or any other setting you choose. After you have adjusted the rear test it on the bend of your test track and watch that baby turn!
One more thing, since I mentioned my method of setting brakes let me clarify something. Even after I find the lock-up point, depending on the car, I may still adjust the brakes lower but never higher. I don’t like to dip into a turn and out brake the AI, but if I need to I will still want the brakes set for it.
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