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Vote for Setup 3712    New Setup for Mercedes-Benz Sauber Mercedes C 9 Race Car      
Setup ID
Tuner
Make
Car
Model Year
Track
Votes
Views
Horsepower
Best Lap
Date Entered
Last Modified
3712
1989
Nürburgring Nordschleife
1
1554
1119
6:15.395
08/18/2005 11:52 PM
09/30/2005 6:22 AM  
Muffler Racing Suspension Racing
Racing Chip Normal Transmission Full Customize
NA Tune None Clutch Standard
Front Tires R4 - Soft Flywheel Standard
Rear Tires R3 - Medium Carbon Driveshaft None
Nitrous Equipped GT Auto - Wing None
Turbine Kit Stage 4 Limited Slip Full Customize
Intercooler None AYC None
Supercharger None VCD None
Brakes Normal Weight Reduction None
Brake Controller Equipped Increase Rigidity None
Setup Item Front Rear Setup Item Front Rear
Spring Rate 7.0 7.0 Stabilizers 4 3
Ride Height 72 72 Brake Balance 4 4
Shock Absorbers Downforce 60 83
Shock Bound 3 3 LSD Init. Torque 15
Shock Rebound 4 4 LSD Acceleration 25
Camber Angle 2.8 1.2 LSD Deceleration 10
Toe Angle 0 0 Nitrous 50
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Final Auto Set
19
ASM
Oversteer
ASM
Understeer
TCS Ballast
Balance
Ballast
Weight
AYC VCD
0 0 5 12 10
Got upset with Fumes' tune because it's not specifically for the Nurb. It felt like driving through marshmallows. No disrespect Fumes but it really didn't fit my driving style. It was fast but I could not keep it on the track. So I developed this tune for the C9 and got my time down from 6'56.916 (major off-track excursions) with yours to 6'15.395 on mine with two grass slip ups.

If you like my Setups, come and check out my site. It’s a GT4 setup, competition and media community. Copy and paste this URL http://gt4tuninggarage.jconserv.net/index.php
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Post #1 - Posted 08/26/2005 1:26 AM
My C9 setup was not specifically for Nurburgring really. It was for Sarthe.

Just by looking at the setup, the ride height might be too low for the Ring, especially with low spring rates.
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Post #2 - Posted 08/26/2005 5:31 AM
___Alright, I'll work on it then. Thanks for checkin' it out.
Sub_Lethal Racing...

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Post #3 - Updated 09/12/2005 8:49 PM
I thought that you had left us to become Ledfndr at that other site?

Edited: Hyperlink in original post removed after confusion was cleared up. This is the same person and the setups have not been stolen from Sub_Lethal.
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Post #4 - Posted 09/12/2005 6:06 PM
___I stand by what I said, there is not much of a community here. I enjoy talking to my fellow racers and being able to have challenges and time battles with them in direct competition. Since I'm complete in the game, there's a replay value there. I come here for the knowledge and statistics on the cars I love to race.
___Further proof in lack of brotherhood here is that this setup was posted on 8/23/05 and you didn't feel the need to comment on it till 9/12? A whole twenty days later?
___Why are you complaining anyway, I don't make a big splash here, I don't advertise, I don't brag. I just come and setup a car, post it and if someone likes it thats fine but I'm doing it for me. I enjoy both sites but mostly I enjoy the game.
Sub_Lethal Racing...

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Post #5 - Posted 09/12/2005 8:46 PM
You didn’t number your points but I will take them in order as if the underscores (__) where numbered.

1. I am not debating the community issue. The idea of community is relative; that said I get as much as a community as I desire from this place. Relative being the key word here.

2. It is not proof of a lack of community, it is proof that I don’t feel the need to track the activity of every member; it is also proof that I don’t frequent the other site. That is all and your antagonistic attitude is not appreciated.

3. I am not complaining, you read something into or from my post that is not present. I don’t care (as mentioned in #2) what the activities of the members here or anywhere else are. Get over whatever it is you think you see in my first post.

I have never insulted, attacked, or otherwise demeaned you in any way, shape, form, or fashion or your insulting attack is not warranted. I really don’t care if you go there, here, or both places. My only concern was looking into a private email from a third party who claimed someone named “Ledfndr” was posting setups identical to the ones posted by “Sub_Lethal”. That third person wanted a second member to confirm what they had found, so they asked me to look. I decided not to jump to conclusions (as they did) and posted a NEUTRAL comment to find out if Ledfndr and you where the same person.

You want community but you insult me, smooth man real smooth!
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Post #6 - Updated 09/12/2005 9:08 PM
___ Embarrassment I apologize DTW, I did take the wrong approach and misread your statement. I assumed it was an attack because of the post pointed out in the link. I'm sorry for the out of place and unwarranted conculsion I jumped to and glad you took the time to look into a complaint of plagarism. Yes, I am the same person, I am Ledfndr and Sub_Lethal. That issue was one of the first things I addressed when I first posted on the Tuneshop, but the site where that thread was is down and will not be back.
___ I hope we can handle this graciously, I have a responsiblity to represent the Tuneshop in a positive light because I am now a Moderator there. So I must be diplomatic and do the right thing and that is to apologize when I am wrong.
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Post #7 - Posted 09/12/2005 9:07 PM
oh and I use the underscores to indent my paragraphs because it doesn't respond to spaces when I put them in my posts.
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Post #8 - Posted 09/12/2005 9:23 PM
I chose to hyperlink to that comment because (1) it seemed clear from the comment you two where indeed the same person. (2) If you are not a member of the other site you can not view the setups, on the off chance you were not Ledfndr and I had linked to one of Ledfndr’s setups it would have brought you to nothing! I picked this setup here because it was the one brought to my attention, there was also something about a drift setup but I did not have a link to it, and I felt confident you two where one in the same.

I accept your apology but I also feel the need to point something out. It seems you are looking at this unfortunate affair from a limited point of view. The matter should be concluded “graciously” (as you so aptly put it) on the bases that it was a misunderstanding. Being a moderator at the other site should not influence your apology, conduct, etcetera here. Now if I am the one misunderstanding your comment than my mistake; however, should you read the second section of your last comment again I am sure you will see that it strongly implies I am not mistaking.

Anyway the matter seems closed.
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Post #9 - Posted 09/12/2005 9:30 PM
___Yea, I meant concluded. I felt I needed to apologize for the misunderstanding as it was just that. Not because of my staff status at the Tuneshop.
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