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3739
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08/21/2005 3:24 AM
12/16/2005 12:06 PM  
Muffler Semi-Racing Suspension Racing
Racing Chip Sports Transmission Full Customize
NA Tune None Clutch Standard
Front Tires S2 - Medium Flywheel Standard
Rear Tires S2 - Medium Carbon Driveshaft None
Nitrous None GT Auto - Wing None
Turbine Kit None Limited Slip Full Customize
Intercooler None AYC None
Supercharger None VCD None
Brakes Normal Weight Reduction None
Brake Controller Equipped Increase Rigidity Equipped
Setup Item Front Rear Setup Item Front Rear
Spring Rate 9.4 10.7 Stabilizers 5 5
Ride Height 95 100 Brake Balance 15 9
Shock Absorbers Downforce
Shock Bound 4 6 LSD Init. Torque
Shock Rebound 6 7 LSD Acceleration
Camber Angle 2.6 1.4 LSD Deceleration
Toe Angle -1 1 Nitrous
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Final Auto Set
2.562 1.762 1.290 0.996 0.811 4.108 1
ASM
Oversteer
ASM
Understeer
TCS Ballast
Balance
Ballast
Weight
AYC VCD
0 0 4

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Joined: 06/21/2005
Last on: 03/14/2007
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Post #1 - Posted 08/21/2005 8:06 AM
Hmm. Looks good on paper. I'll give it a shot and tell you what I think.
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Post #2 - Updated 08/21/2005 11:26 AM
I made a few changes, some from personal preference, some from necessity. I kept the ride height even at 100 mm front and rear (I don't like uneven ride height), used my own transmission settings (I forgot to write yours down), and tested the setup on N2 tires to get a better feel for its handling. I also picked up the rigidity refresher, since you didn't specify whether you did or not.

Very nice setup. You've struck an excellent balance between quick response and stability over bumps (what few there are on Suzuka). However, it's a little understeerish for my tastes, especially under braking (a common TVR trait), but also during tight cornering and a little bit under acceleration. I would suggest the following:

1- Ditch the limited slip. The Cerbera has excellent traction on its own, and your current settings can't get much lower. This is the one change I'd suggest you try even if you disagree with the rest of what I say.

2- Adjust the brake balance more to the rear. I set it to 6F/9R to test, and that helped quite a lot. The slightly lower overall power level helps counteract wheel lock on new and worn tires, too.

3- Make some minor adjustments to the spring rates and stabilizers. I went with 10.1F/9.8R for the SR and 3F/4R for the stabilizers. I also tweaked the bound and rebound to suit my driving style.

After I ran a few laps on Suzuka (two practice laps and 2 Family Cup races), I headed off to the Nurburgring to really give the suspension a beating. For as low as your ride height is, your setup handled the 'Ring admirably. There were some hairy spots when the car wanted to jump-n-bounce, but a little forethought and light braking kept it calm. The hint of understeer caused some problems here and there, too, but nothing bad enough to make the car unenjoyable.

I ran a 7'55.8 on N2 tires- a very respectable time for a lightly tuned production car. For comparison, I ran a lap in a stock BMW M5 (arguably the best 'Ring car in the game) in 7'56 and a stock TVR Tuscan in 7'57, both on N2 tires.

Have fun.

I used a DFP during testing, just in case it matters.
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Post #3 - Posted 08/22/2005 12:37 AM
First of all thanks for your time. As soon as I can I will take the cover off my Cerbera and take it out for a spin and look at your suggestions on the setup. I think I love learning about tuning almost as much as going out and trading paint. CWood I'm working on a concept car prototype and I just recently finished th plug. I have even had Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top) come over and sneak a peek at the positive mold with a big smile on his face. Like to take a look? If so I will email you a few pictures. Anyway thanks for your response, live and learn.

P.S. Vimana is the name of my car. Check out Vimana on the web its great reading.

Vimana
See a picture of the real Vimana Plug (positive mold) http://www.tunnelcarconcepts.com
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Post #4 - Posted 09/07/2005 7:04 PM
I'd love to take a look, but I'm a little leery of putting my email up on a message board (even one I trust as much as GTVault). If you have a website you could point me at, it'd be great.

Sorry it took so long to get back to you- I've been a little busy lately.

Later.
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Post #5 - Updated 09/08/2005 11:27 PM
I am currently working on my website, When I get it a little more secure I will give you the address. Yes family and work is very important, but I hope you can still get the time to sneak in a little GT once in a while.
Talk to you again later.

P.S. Wood, is that Wood in the famous Wood brothers Cool
See a picture of the real Vimana Plug (positive mold) http://www.tunnelcarconcepts.com
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