Will this setup work with Stage 3 NA or Original Turbo upgrades?

So basically increasing TCS would solve the problem if u increase in power?

It won't solve understeer completely, but might make it a bit more driveable.

I totaly agree. FF cars can be as fast or faster the some cars with FR or 4WD drivetrains, especially with today's advancements in technology for the FF car.

RacerX, let's see you tune more FF cars than just the ITR you have now.
It would be interesting to test some more well tuned FF cars here.

One of my favourite parts of this game is the time I spend with a friend of mine in replicating the BTCC races in GT4. 300hp max, 2.0liter cars, many of them FF. I'm always interested in finding ways to get one up on him in these races we have.

What am I driving?
BMW, Audi, Mazdas, Nissan, anything really that you would find in the BTCC races or similar touring championships.
My friend and I try to keep it to the BTCC rules, but really, we only stick to these rules.
The car must be no more than 300hp, production car (ie not a race car), and about 2.0L. All other upgrades permitted as long as it falls under the above rules.

Got any setups in that range?

Yes, it would be fun getting a 3rd person racing, but we do this in real life. ie. two PS2s, linked, two TVs and in one living room. Have had up to 4 people linked once, that was fun.
I suppose we could race virtually and compare times, but that's not as much fun as racing each other on screen in real life. Bumping shoving, passing over, under, just like in a real race. How well you know the track and the perfect racing line counts, but not as much when you have someone bumping your ass and shoving you out of the way.

With only 300horses, it's all about driver skills.

No one here tunes FF cars much. Everytime I start a conversation about tuning FF car theories, they run. It would be good to share what works and what doesn't when changing settings in GT4.

Hope we can continue discussing FF tuning much more !
You could post a few more of you own, and check some of my FF tunes so far and comment.

Let's keep the feedback civilised, no cursing, swearing, name calling. And keep it at a level where we are trying to improve on each other's FF tuning abilities in GT4.
You comments about LSD was a good start.

Oh ps. if you want to share theories or run ideas by me or general "what do you think about x for an FF setup" kind of questions, you know where to find me. Look up one of my FF tuned cars and post there. Hopefully I'll get a notice that you posted and I'll read it.

We can make exceptions for 1.8L up to 2.4L cars.
As long as it stays under 300hp.

Cool that's good to hear you're in agreement with sharing setups

Had a look at you ITR setup. And reading your small challenge with Lister.
under 7 minutes with an FF car on the 'Ring, that's awesome.

If I may, can I offer a suggestion with your ITR?
I think you could really benefit from increasing your rear spring rates to reduce weight shift to the back of the car when accelerating. In FF cars, you need the weight on the driving wheels, which is at the front. You loose grip when weight is shifted to the rear during acceleration, thus leading to understeer.
Double the value you have now.

Mostly with FF cars what I do is Stiffen where the weight is, With the lower weight in the rear it doesnt need to be stiff (or as stiff as the front, the fronts got alot more load to deal with, especially under braking) lowering the rear loosens up the rear & stiffening the rear tightens it up (Too low a setting and you have a tail wipping arround like crazy with massive oversteer, too high a setting and you get massive understeer. And If you go Further stiffening you will have a understeering car that has a hopping tail )

If you notice Your getting understeer dropping the rear spring rate should be step 1, but be carefull too low and you get crazy oversteer (Yup oversteer with a FF)

If you check out The spring rates for aftermarket racing lowering springs for FF cars, (Tein for example) You will see its the way they do it (Stiffer up front soft in the rear)

I know this is "Real World" Tuning and we aree playing GT4, But Ive learned keeping to real world tuning techniques works best.

Here is a Link, check it out http://www.tein.com/prices.html they give the F/R Spring rates for there sets. I dont see any FF rides with Stiff Rear spring rates (The back end of the car is Empty, and doesnt need to be stiff, there is a much smaller load to deal with)

changes to Spring rates doesnt increase or decrease the amount of weight transfered, but rather the rate of the transfer. with that said, Stiffer up front then the rear is more ballanced with the weight of the car and allows for better acceleration, cornering, and deceleration all together. Once you go WOT & Your suspention is loaded the same amout of weight will be on the rear no matter what your spring rate is.

Most likely a Egg (wait 2006, Im not sure what that is just yet) Ahh the New Si Sedan (Long distance between front and rear wheels, Its probably got a Really close weight split, and a LSD Stock is pretty sweet for the Price (Not a Bad ride at all, Best Civic Yet for sure)

Yeah, I keep em Arround 9/6 F/R But always play arround to get a snug fit

Yeah, normally arroud now people are like (Yeah, I just grab a Viper and to Hell with the FF)

ohh dont get me wrong, I always try out the Outrageous

This ITR set up comes only after putting arround 700miles on 4 of them (Ive gone through every combo I could come up with, and a few left feild ones ) and I really think shes finally dialed in just right. Dont forget 6:36 @ The RIng I just love the way she drives, shes Fast, fun and easy to handle, on the set up I wouldnt change a thing

Not sure about the Integra TC. I haven't bought that yet.
As long as it falls within our rules. But most racing cars in GT4 aren't really within the 1.8L to 2.4L range.
But the BMW 320i tourer is.

I really have to get back to work, no matter how much I'm enjoying our conversation. ciao for now.