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Setup ID
Tuner
Make
Car
Model Year
Track
Votes
Views
Horsepower
Best Lap
Date Entered
Last Modified
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5069
2004
Road Setup
1582
300
03/12/2006 5:40 PM
03/12/2006 6:23 PM
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| Equipment Selection |
| Muffler |
Sports |
Suspension |
Racing |
| Racing Chip |
Normal |
Transmission |
Full Customize |
| NA Tune |
None |
Clutch |
Triple Plate |
| Front Tires |
R3 - Medium |
Flywheel |
Racing |
| Rear Tires |
R3 - Medium |
Carbon Driveshaft |
Equipped |
| Nitrous |
None
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GT Auto - Wing |
Equipped
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| Turbine Kit |
Stage 3 |
Limited Slip |
Standard |
| Intercooler |
None |
AYC |
None |
| Supercharger |
None
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VCD |
None |
| Brakes |
Normal |
Weight Reduction |
Stage 3 |
| Brake Controller |
Equipped |
Increase Rigidity |
None
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| Settings |
| Setup Item |
Front |
Rear |
Setup Item |
Front |
Rear |
| Spring Rate |
10.0 |
11.0 |
Stabilizers |
4 |
4 |
| Ride Height |
110 |
115 |
Brake Balance |
2 |
2 |
| Shock Absorbers |
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Downforce |
30 |
28 |
| Shock Bound |
4 |
8 |
LSD Init. Torque |
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| Shock Rebound |
6 |
8 |
LSD Acceleration |
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| Camber Angle |
2.5 |
1.0 |
LSD Deceleration |
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| Toe Angle |
0 |
0 |
Nitrous
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| Gear Ratios |
| 1st |
2nd |
3rd |
4th |
5th |
6th |
Final |
Auto Set |
| 3.360 |
2.319 |
1.718 |
1.330 |
1.070 |
0.915 |
3.380 |
10
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| Driving Aids / Other |
ASM
Oversteer |
ASM
Understeer |
TCS |
Ballast
Balance |
Ballast
Weight |
AYC |
VCD |
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0 |
0
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15 |
16 |
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| Notes |
Port Polish, Engine Balance and Oil change performed to get an even 300HP.
Added 16kg of Ballast to bring this car to a minimum of 1150kg as per the GTVault BTCC race rules.
This is a race modelled closer to the BTCC rules.
FR or FF cars with the following as rules ...
Car Type
The race car must be based on a 4-seater road-going production model (race cars Not allowed) with at least 4 doors. Special dispensation has been granted to the Honda Civic Type-R which fails to meet the requirements for number of doors, and the Mazda RX-8 with suicide doors.
Engine capacity between 1.8L and 2.2L (1796cc to 2200cc),
All cars must have a maximum of 300hp.
All cars must have a minimum base weight of 1120kg,
FR cars must carry an additional 30kg.
(Check hp rating and weight in car info screen, same screen you can "Sell" the car)
Racing Medium (R3) tyres
Overall the car must have a ride-height of no less than 80mm
Aero wing is allowed.
The race car must remain front- or rear-wheel drive (FF or FR) as per the road car.
Four-wheel drive (4WD) is not permitted.
No Nitrous (NOS).
Ballast weight permitted to get to the minimum weight above.
Keep your car type and model a secret until the end of the race. All car types are to be revealed then and setups posted by each participant.
Race Format
Track: Fuji Speedway 2005
Race type: Family Cup
Laps: 2
Difficulty setting: 0
Race Start and Finish times
Post your total time for the two laps in Family cup and/or your fastest hot lap in Free Run.
Links to screen shots preferred but not mandatory.
All participants have until Thursday 9th March 2006 12:00pm (Eastern Standard Time) to post their times. Any times after this will be accepted, but will not be counted for the podium position, on account that you finished the race after everyone has completed the race.
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Post #1 - Updated 03/13/2006 6:19 PM
Family cup time = 3.38'074.
More screen shots coming soon.
Hot lap on free run at Fuji speedway 2005.
1.41.303
Family cup time - 3.38'074
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Post #2 - Posted 03/12/2006 6:01 PM
BTCC FF & FR Race 3 Podium
1st Place
Fumes - 3.38'074 - BMW 120i
2nd Place
PaganiZondaC12Racer - 3.39.339 - Lexus IS 200 (j)
3rd Place
Rac3rX - 3.40'494 - RX8 Type S
4th
Zeratul - 3.41'243 - RX8 Concept (Type I)
5th
TopGear_Stig_2 - 3.43'836 - RX8 Type S
6th
Aspen - 3.45'754 - Infiniti G20
THANKS AGAIN TO EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATED.
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Missed this challenge........
Post #3 - Updated 03/12/2006 8:18 PM
Where did I miss the posting about this one? How do I find out about the next one?
Screen shots? Techno-nerd here!! Do I have to link the PS2 with my computer to transfer my screenshots to GTVault?
Respectfully, Brian
"Half measures availed us nothing", BBoAA.
- All setups and tuning for the Logitech Driving Force Pro and/or G25.
- 100% Complete, Finally!
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Online Racing
Post #4 - Posted 03/12/2006 7:46 PM
I see you guys have taken it upon yourselves to conduct on-line racing. This was always an idea that I kept on the back burner. It's technically possible to add all sorts of cool racing functionality to the site, but I was loath to do so because of the inherent issues that come along with racing. By that I mainly mean time verification (screens / videos). Along with that comes maintenance, and I prefer my websites like my women - low maintenance.
That said, if there is significant demand, I would entertain the thought of adding on-line racing capabilities to GTVault. Of course, it would be a cut above all that you currently see out there. There are a number of times submission sites, but they focus on specific events, races, arcade, hot laps, etc. My idea was to basically do what you guys are doing, only make it easy by setting it all up within the database framework in GTVault. I'd allow people to organize events, construct what tracks, cars, maybe setups, other parameters to use. Events would have a signup for X people, a deadline for submitting times, etc. Because of the likelihood of cheating, verification would be necessary, which I would plan to leave in the hands of the event organizer. I could require a screenshot upload along with time submission. I know it's restrictive, but I feel it's necessary in order to enforce a level playing field. This was just some of the stuff off the top of my head here.
Thoughts?
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Post #5 - Posted 03/12/2006 7:48 PM
Oh yeah, looks like the competition was pretty tight!
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online racing
Post #6 - Posted 03/12/2006 11:23 PM
Kerr, If you had the time to set something like the above mention it would be great, I would leave rules up to the race holder, as many paramiters as you could add; cars, tuning, track, race, etc. etc....
Thanks again for the great site.
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olr
Post #7 - Posted 03/13/2006 5:34 AM
dear dr kerr, i am much in favor of doing olr thru the vault. currently i do my competitions in gtplanet but my guess is these guys don't really use setups to try to get an advantage. not much gt mode racing there. that said, it still is a lot of fun to compete against other gt4 fans. if you could find the time to bolt together some functions into the vault, you can count me in. suggestions:
- 2 week races
- only gt mode
- permanent race tracks only (no city stuff)
- no divisions
- formula one style points per race
- 3 best performers upload maxdrive ghost replays for verification
- choice of cars: road/super/concept cars only with ptw ratios of 2 to 4; alternating fixed choice and free choice within ranges
- setups with some limitations (weight, hp, tyres) but enough space for getting an advantage out of tuning not only out of steering and throttling
good luck
truly yours: bigracer@holland gt4 currently at 96.4%, >760 cars, >150M cr.
i like german road cars, speed 6+12 and hsc best
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Post #8 - Posted 03/13/2006 4:37 PM
That would be cool. we could get our setups and OLR all in one place. How awsome is that?!?! Although, we should leave the race specifics up to the individual holding the race or series.
The options for race restrictions should be the same options that you can do a search for cars on the Vault.
[b:a346f58b77][color=blue:a346f58b77]Mojo[/color:a346f58b77][/b:a346f58b77]
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Post #9 - Updated 03/13/2006 6:20 PM
<images moved up to the first post>
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Post #10 - Posted 03/13/2006 5:28 PM
BTWhite37 wrote: Where did I miss the posting about this one? How do I find out about the next one?
Screen shots? Techno-nerd here!! Do I have to link the PS2 with my computer to transfer my screenshots to GTVault?
Respectfully, Brian
Nothing techno about linking screenshots. My screenshots are just digital photos taken right off the tv screen. Then the image is hosted on http://imageshack.us
Photos of the cars are taken in GT4 and saved onto a memory stick. Then again, hosted on imageshack.
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Post #11 - Posted 03/13/2006 5:40 PM
Hi All,
glad to see this has drawn some attention.
Rac3rX and I got together for some friendly one on one racing in the spirit of learning of each other the finer arts of tuning FF drivetrain cars. We decided to test our setups with some friendly competition, and that gave birth to what we call the "GTVault BTCC race". The race being based on the BTCC rules and using cars under 300hp, etc.
We have come up with a nice little format for races, and have conducted a total of 3 races so far. Most of those races can be found here = http://www.gtvault.com/gt4/setup-view/s_sid::4841/BMW-320i-Touring-Car/
The 4th installment is a race based on DTM cars. And is hosted by RAc3rX here = http://www.gtvault.com/gt4/setup-view/s_sid::4580/pos::20
If you'd like to join, do so quickly, as there is a time limit for you to post your times.
Read the rules of engagement in that link.
I'm all for this format of Online racing. Now that Rac3rX and I have set a few up, I find it quite manageable. For the most part, everyone is honest, with a bit of a reminder that it's only a game and you win nothing, and a screen shot or two as proof. All entries are to post their setups here as well, so everyone else benefits from excellent setups.
Kerr, I can give you a hand in the form of advise from the experience gained if you'd like to take this further. You have my contacts. Email me.
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Post #12 - Posted 03/13/2006 5:59 PM
In general, my thought was to allow the race organizer the ability to customize the OLR experience however they see fit. # of racers, car / hp / setups / ballast / tracks / time submission deadlines / etc. Additionally, the race organizer would be responsible for verifying screens or videos of times before they are considered "official". The major reservation I have with all of this is that it is open season for cheating. People get really bent out of shape about it, even though it is a game and shouldn't be taken too seriously. As Fumes has said, there is nothing to be gained by cheating, but nothing will stop that kind of activity. There would need to be some sort of accountability system, but I'm not happy with what I've seen in the past and don't have any (in my eyes) viable ideas on that front at this point in time.
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Post #13 - Posted 03/13/2006 6:17 PM
Kerr wrote: In general, my thought was to allow the race organizer the ability to customize the OLR experience however they see fit. # of racers, car / hp / setups / ballast / tracks / time submission deadlines / etc. Additionally, the race organizer would be responsible for verifying screens or videos of times before they are considered "official". The major reservation I have with all of this is that it is open season for cheating. People get really bent out of shape about it, even though it is a game and shouldn't be taken too seriously. As Fumes has said, there is nothing to be gained by cheating, but nothing will stop that kind of activity. There would need to be some sort of accountability system, but I'm not happy with what I've seen in the past and don't have any (in my eyes) viable ideas on that front at this point in time.
Kerr,
you and I, along with DTW, have had many a conversation about this topic in the past. And you know my concerns for cheating as well. How do we stop or deter it, has always been the question that went unanswered.
As I started hosting these races, that question still played on my mind. Then, I realised, do I really care of someone cheated? My answer = no.
If someone cheated, would I stop the races to the detriment of everyone else's fun ? Answer = no.
So far, everyone that has join the 3 races Rac3rX and I have hosted, has been very honorable and no cheating has been detected.
Hosting the Online Race or not hosting with the fear of cheaters out there, is akin to the age old question ... Is it better to have loved and lost then to not have loved at all ?
You won't have to police the races at all, it will be the responsibility of the host to make use competitors are within his race regulations. Which should have been specified before the race started. I figured insisting on screenshots and setups to be posted can be a good deterent to cheating. Everyone will have access to your setup for further testing if an outrageuos time is posted. Screenshots of the car on track, like the one posted above will show a few things like, track, car, lap time, presence of nitrous or not. The second screenshot shows, total lap time of the race, car type, track.
Images are uploaded to http://imageshack.us and it's free with easy to follow instructions on how to upload the files.
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Cheating
Post #14 - Posted 03/13/2006 6:44 PM
Let me start by saying cheating is lame! Not just in gt4, but in all aspects of life, you really just cheat yourself anyway....
The competitive nature of the race event will dictate the policing policy, I think all have been on the up and up so far and I have not seen a time posted that I questioned. Screen shots are validating as fumes stated, rac3rx usually posts vids with his times.
If there is an ultra serious faction racing here, the host could require maxport replays emailed to his own address and he could keep things in order.
My 2 cents
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Setups
Post #15 - Posted 03/13/2006 6:58 PM
Oh yeah, post your setups after the race, that is still what the vault is about after all 
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More thoughts...
Post #16 - Posted 03/13/2006 7:34 PM
aspen - good idea re: enforcement of times. Each "event" could have it's own policy i.e. none required, screenshot, maxport, etc. Of course, this assumes the event host is on the up and up! This almost necessitates feedback from racers (thumbs up for instance) on how the host handled the event.
Re: setups - Being as this whole site revolves around setups, my thought is to require either the use of an existing setup or posting your own. I know, it adds another element to it, but there's nothing like a batch of times to prove in a good setup.
The ways to present this data are endless. The more I think about it, the more I believe tight integration with the existing setup system is a requirement.
Now the bad news. This is all just brainstorming. I'm not committed to working on it as of yet, though I am entertaining the idea much more than I have in the past. This is mainly due to the enthusiasm I see on here. I am a ways off from even beginning to work on an endeavour like this. My personal / business life is just too busy right now.
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Cheating
Post #17 - Posted 03/13/2006 7:36 PM
I agree with all that was said about it here. I also like to think that 99.9% of the members here are above cheating, this is based on all posts I've read here.
Greetz Zeratul.
Fast is on the edge of control.
Game at 99.4% guess where I'm stuck at?
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Kerr
Post #18 - Posted 03/13/2006 8:03 PM
We all understand and apreciate the hard work and dedication you show to run this site, no rush on intigrating racing. Perhaps watching these early races take form for a while will give you good direction to if and when you decide to "update" the site.
I trust what I have seen from fumes and rac3rx so far, so it's all good for me, I would suggest podium results be dependant on racers posting there sets.
I would also suggest all participants try others sets! Maybe even cast a vote or two 
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Post #19 - Posted 03/14/2006 7:05 PM
Quote: I would also suggest all participants try others sets! Maybe even cast a vote or two
I would like to but at the moment the races are so quickly set up I just don't have the time.
Greetz Zeratul.
Fast is on the edge of control.
Game at 99.4% guess where I'm stuck at?
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Post #20 - Posted 03/14/2006 8:10 PM
aspen - that is my theory as well. Why not let you guys run some more races, decide what you want and don't want out of an online racing application, then take the best and most doable of those ideas and go from there.
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