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Setup ID
Tuner
Make
Car
Model Year
Track
Votes
Views
Horsepower
Best Lap
Date Entered
Last Modified
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6409
1993
Road Setup
925
441
1:22.698
03/31/2007 2:40 PM
04/01/2007 4:08 PM
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| Equipment Selection |
| Muffler |
Racing |
Suspension |
Racing |
| Racing Chip |
Normal |
Transmission |
Full Customize |
| NA Tune |
None |
Clutch |
Standard |
| Front Tires |
R3 - Medium |
Flywheel |
Standard |
| Rear Tires |
R3 - Medium |
Carbon Driveshaft |
None |
| Nitrous |
None
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GT Auto - Wing |
None
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| Turbine Kit |
None |
Limited Slip |
Full Customize |
| Intercooler |
None |
AYC |
None |
| Supercharger |
None
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VCD |
Equipped |
| Brakes |
Normal |
Weight Reduction |
None |
| Brake Controller |
Equipped |
Increase Rigidity |
Equipped
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| Settings |
| Setup Item |
Front |
Rear |
Setup Item |
Front |
Rear |
| Spring Rate |
11.5 |
14.5 |
Stabilizers |
4 |
5 |
| Ride Height |
60 |
63 |
Brake Balance |
7 |
5 |
| Shock Absorbers |
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Downforce |
38 |
53 |
| Shock Bound |
5 |
7 |
LSD Init. Torque |
5 |
5 |
| Shock Rebound |
6 |
8 |
LSD Acceleration |
5 |
5 |
| Camber Angle |
2.7 |
0.7 |
LSD Deceleration |
5 |
5 |
| Toe Angle |
-1 |
0 |
Nitrous
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| Gear Ratios |
| 1st |
2nd |
3rd |
4th |
5th |
6th |
Final |
Auto Set |
| 4.335 |
3.104 |
2.351 |
1.859 |
1.535 |
1.324 |
4.500 |
1
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| Driving Aids / Other |
ASM
Oversteer |
ASM
Understeer |
TCS |
Ballast
Balance |
Ballast
Weight |
AYC |
VCD |
| 0 |
0 |
1
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13 |
| Notes |
Tuned for Drivng Force Pro at Laguna Seca on R3 tires.
Includes; an "oil change" to get the Hp to 441.
Gears by way of "Tranny Trick".
Ran 1' 22.698 on R3 tires with 441 Hp from a stock tune.
So, I tune this one at Laguna Seca by taking multiple laps, making small changes in gearing and suspension, and going for another run of 3 to 10 laps. I use what I've learned about tuning cars, my notes on other AWD setups, a seat of the pants feel to tune each car. Sometimes I go to "GT Vault" after I finalize my tune and compare my end results to other setups. I'm amazed at how close this one is to Fumes' Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI. So much so that he deserves a vote for his setup. There are differences of course, but It's scary how much our final setups resemble each other.
Considering this car for Nurburgring 24 hr Endurance.
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Joined:
10/23/2006
Last on:
08/26/2008
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Post #1 - Posted 04/01/2007 12:35 AM
this is pretty much the sickest tuning for an AWD car that i have ever had the privelage of driving! very smooth, and hardly ANY understeer at ALL!!!!
awesome job, BTW!!!!!
What if you started a Straight Pride parade?
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Joined:
05/16/2004
Last on:
09/05/2008
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Nurburgring Nordschleife
Post #2 - Updated 04/14/2007 12:40 AM
Nurburgring Nordschleife
Changes to setup for the 'Ring compared to Laguna Seca include:
....................Front / Rear
Ride Height, ....... 63 / 66
Final Ratio, ........ 3.750
Taking a look at this car for the Nurburgring 24hr Endurance. Most likely the one I'll go with.
Extra ride height gives the suspension some room to move and keep the bottom of the car from scraping on the rough surface at The Nurburgring.
Ran 6' 38.363 on R3 tires with 441 Hp, 4/01/07.
"Half measures availed us nothing", BBoAA.
- All setups and tuning for the Logitech Driving Force Pro and/or G25.
- 100% Complete, Finally!
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Joined:
05/16/2004
Last on:
09/05/2008
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Nurburgring 24hr Endurance Race
Post #3 - Updated 11/26/2007 6:26 PM
Nurburgring 24hr Endurance Race
Car: Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI Touring Car, '93
Changes to setup for the Nurburgring 24hr include:
.......................... Front / Rear
Down Force, ............. 35 / 50
VCD, ........................ 10%
TCS, .......................... 4
The Competition: ................................. Pits Every
Toyota, Super AutoBacs Apex MR-S, '00 .......... 7 laps
AMG Mercedes Benz 190E EvoII T/C, '04 .......... 6 laps
Nissan C-West Razo Silvia(JGTC), '01 .............. 6 laps
Nissan Falken * GTR Race Car ....................... 5 laps
Opel Calibra Touring Car, 94 ......................... 6 laps
Pit at Lap .... Time In Pits ..... Total Time ........Tire Change ... * Notes
.......... (vs. Nissan Fauken * GTR Race Car '04) ........... F / R
Start .............................................................. R1 / R1 ... * A-Spec
4 ................. + 0' 50 ....................................... R1 / R2
28 ................ + 2' 28 .......................................
10 ................ + 2' 47 ............. @ 1:12' 23 ............ R1 / R1 ... * B-Spec
15 ................ + 2' 39 .......................................
20 ................ + 2' 20 ............. @ 2: 28' 15 ........... R1 / R2 ... * A-Spec
24 ................ + 3' 34 ....................................... R2 / R2
27 ................ + 4' 55 ....................................... R1 / R2
30 ................ + 5' 07 ............. @ 3: 40' 29 ........... R1 / R1 ... * B-Spec
35 ................ + 5' 29 .......................................
40 ................ + 5' 02 .......................................
45 ................ + 4' 44 .......................................... * 6 Hrs (1/4 comp)
50 ................ + 4' 25 .......................................... 49 1/2 Lps @ +4' 33
55 ................ + 3' 57 .......................................
60 ................ + 3' 44 ............. @ 7: 28' 48 ........... R1 / R2 ... * A-Spec
64 ................ + 4' 41 ....................................... R1 / R1
67 ................ + 5' 56 ....................................... R1 / R2
70 ................ + 6' 31 ............. @ 8: 41' 30 ........... R1 / R1 ... * B-Spec
75 ................ + 6' 45 .......................................
80 ................ + 6' 35 .......................................
85 ................ + 6' 10 .......................................
90 ................ + 5' 54 .......................................... * 12 Hrs (1/2 comp)
95 ................ + 5' 34 .......................................... 96 1/4 Lps @ +5' 41
100 .............. + 5' 12 ............. @ 12: 28' 45 .......... R1 / R2 ... * A-Spec
104 .............. + 6' 07 ........................................... * + 1 Lap on lap 103
107 .............. + 1 lap ........................................ R1 / R1
110 .............. + 1 lap ............. @ 13: 40' 51 .......... R1 / R1 ... * B-Spec
115 .............. + 1 lap ........................................
120 .............. + 1 lap ........................................
125 .............. + 1 lap ........................................
130 .............. + 1 lap ........................................
135 .............. + 7' 12 ........................................
140 .............. + 6' 54 ............. @17: 29' 02 ........... R1 / R2 ... * A-Spec
144 .............. + 1 lap ........................................... * 18 Hrs (3/4 comp)
147 .............. + 1 lap ........................................... 145 Lps @ +1 lap
150 .............. + 1 lap ........................................
154 .............. + 1 lap & 3' 15 ...............................
157 .............. + 1 lap & 4' 43 ...............................
160 .............. + 1 lap & 5' 15 .... @ 19: 53' 39 .......... R1 / R1 ... * B-spec
165 .............. + 1 lap & 5' 35 ...............................
170 .............. + 1 lap & 5' 14 ...............................
175 .............. + 1 lap & 4' 50 ...............................
180 .............. + 1 lap & 4' 40 .... @ 22: 25' 37 .......... R2 / R2 ... * A-spec
184 .............. + 1 lap & 5' 48 ............................... R1 / R2
188 .............. + 2 laps .......................................... * + 2 Lap on lap 188
191 .............. + 2 laps & 0' 30 ... @ 23: 44' 40 .......... R2 / R3
193 .............. + 2 laps & 1' 34 ... @ 24: 00.05.625 ........ * Finish
Here are the Numbers:
Total time: 24:00' 05.625
Total laps: 193, (73 A-Spec, 120 B-Spec)
Total miles: 2492.7
Fastest lap: 6' 50.387 on R2/R3 tires, 6' 59.039 on R1/R2 tires
Fastest lap, B-Spec: 7' 26.400 on R1/R1 tires
Fastest Practice Lap: 6' 38.363 on R3s
Pit every: 3 or 4 laps, R1/R2 tires, (A-Spec)
Horse Power: 441, At the end of race: 413 Hp
Final Ratio: 3.750, Ratios by way of "Tranny Trick"
"Half measures availed us nothing", BBoAA.
- All setups and tuning for the Logitech Driving Force Pro and/or G25.
- 100% Complete, Finally!
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Joined:
08/03/2007
Last on:
08/27/2008
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4WD Turning
Post #4 - Posted 07/28/2008 7:07 PM
Greetings;
-- What would you sugest to help to get a normal car on sport tires to pull the nose into turns. Im having difficulty getting the ZZ II to respond on mid-speed entry at Nurburgring and Ive made numerous changes trying to get it right.
-Nurburgring Racer-
-DS2 controler-
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Joined:
05/16/2004
Last on:
09/05/2008
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AWD Tuning.............
Post #5 - Updated 07/31/2008 12:37 AM
Fieldstar wrote: Greetings;
-- What would you sugest to help to get a normal car on sport tires to pull the nose into turns. Im having difficulty getting the ZZ II to respond on mid-speed entry at Nurburgring and Ive made numerous changes trying to get it right. ,......... Meaning.....
* Lowest possible front VCD settings
* Softer front springs than rear
* Lower front damping ratings than rear
* Softer front Sway Bars (stabilizers)
* No LSD,. not ever.. Or lowest possible settiings
Here's I bit I sent to another tuner a while back:
Just a Hint..........
Marty14, If you care to put a bit more time in this car,............... Try the AWD setups with no LSD at all. The idea of LSD works against that of the VCD. Opt for no LSD, front and rear............ and tune from there. On the cars that can't de-select LSD,......... run them all at "5",........... the minimum setting. Makes a huge difference in the snow and dirt. Give it a whirl, and let me know how it goes, Brian.
"Half measures availed us nothing", BBoAA.
- All setups and tuning for the Logitech Driving Force Pro and/or G25.
- 100% Complete, Finally!
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Joined:
08/03/2007
Last on:
08/27/2008
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AWD Tuning at Nurburgring..
Post #6 - Posted 08/03/2008 8:26 PM
Greetings BTWhite;
-- As you sugested with various different methods to control a AWD car. I went to work. Unfortunatly for the ZZ II, I couldnt get much more than what it had for the "Ring". However, I tried the same methods to my worst runner in the Touring Race Class, the Mazda 6 Touring Car and the Audi Le'mans Quattro. The cars had decent balance in suspension but the Mazda could not go more than 2 laps before destroying front tires. Bottoming out the VCD and LSD brought life to a 3rd lap. Removing the same for the Quattro gave a better handling overall.
--Thanks for great tunning insite to AWD
-Nurburgring Racer-
-DS2 controler-
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Joined:
05/16/2004
Last on:
09/05/2008
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AWD Tuning.............
Post #7 - Posted 08/03/2008 9:12 PM
Happy to hear they handled better for you. I used the same guidelines to tune a Subaru WRX STI in GT5 Prologue and was happy to find they still ring true. To fine tune even further,......... Take the car to the dirt and/or snow. Have fun, Brian
"Half measures availed us nothing", BBoAA.
- All setups and tuning for the Logitech Driving Force Pro and/or G25.
- 100% Complete, Finally!
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