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7023
2002
Nürburgring Nordschleife
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431
622
6:38.269
03/04/2008 6:04 PM
03/06/2008 5:03 PM  
Muffler Racing Suspension Racing
Racing Chip Sports Transmission Full Customize
NA Tune None Clutch Triple Plate
Front Tires R2 - Hard Flywheel Racing
Rear Tires R2 - Hard Carbon Driveshaft None
Nitrous None GT Auto - Wing Equipped
Turbine Kit Stage 3 Limited Slip Full Customize
Intercooler Racing AYC None
Supercharger None VCD None
Brakes Racing Weight Reduction Stage 2
Brake Controller Equipped Increase Rigidity None
Setup Item Front Rear Setup Item Front Rear
Spring Rate 8.0 10.0 Stabilizers 3 2
Ride Height 119 119 Brake Balance 6 4
Shock Absorbers Downforce 20 30
Shock Bound 4 4 LSD Init. Torque 6
Shock Rebound 7 8 LSD Acceleration 15
Camber Angle 1.9 1.3 LSD Deceleration 15
Toe Angle -1 0 Nitrous
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Final Auto Set
2.650 1.510 1.100 0.840 0.660 3.889 17
ASM
Oversteer
ASM
Understeer
TCS Ballast
Balance
Ballast
Weight
AYC VCD
0 0 0 -15 166
This is a revision of my last Esprit V8 set-up using a different design philosophy to alter the weight balance.

It's not perfect still and after over 500 miles of testing in this car alone, I'm a bit fatigued of the 'Ring :lol:.

You have to[i] drive[/i] her rather than simply sit with your foot to the floor (at certain places) but she's responsive enough and resists the tendency to snap-oversteer I've found with Esprits on R tyres at these HP levels (this doesn't mean she's 'immune' tho' so have a care).

EDIT: Reduced Front Brake Balance a touch. Still at a loss as to how to stop the bad 'hop' and 'bump steer' the car exhibits at certain places on the circuit. I'll keep experimenting ...

Second EDIT: The 'cure' came from an unlikely change - I increased the Front Rebound to 7 (from 5). No more 'trampolining' after Fliugplatz, bump-steer much more controlled at Fuchsrohre and braking into Tiergarten stable again. I'd gone with the soft dampers to try and combat the 'darty' handling from the too responsive steering and should've realised I could go stiffer again once I'd put other suspension measures into place.

Flaws still remain. Going flat-out through Pflanzgarten/Schwalbenschwanz is a recipe for a crash unless you''re quick with counter-steering movements.

I'm wondering if an increase in Rear Rebound would help or a decrease in Rear Bound? Clicked it up to 8 (from 6) and tested her. I feared that the stiffer shocks would cause problems with the bumps but apart from some battering jolts that would be unpleasant in the real world she handles much better with the higher Rebound ironing out body movements. Rear tyre wear seems a little worse but that could be my imagination. As I also lowered the Ride Height to 119/119 that might have a role to play there too.

As a fnal test I deliberately messed up the entry to Pflantzgarten and was able to recover her rather than have an unavoidbale crash :tup:. I'll accept a harsh ride for predictable cornering :D.
Joined: 07/27/2002
Last on: 09/03/2008
Setups: 19
Posts: 32
Post #1 - Posted 03/08/2008 8:28 AM
One note worth adding,altho' it's probably obvious, is that this set-up is designed specifically to give stability of handling at the Nurburgring.

Other fast tracks, like Twin Ring Motegi Road or Tokyo R246 might be okay with it too but the understeer and low gear turbo lag would be a nightmare at a circuit like Hong Kong Eek.

I'll work on some alternate settings for her when I get the chance but the alterations should be easy enough e.g. tighter gearbox, stiffer Bound, stiffer rear Stabaliser, higher front Downforce and less LSD Decel would be good places to start.
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Last on: 09/03/2008
Setups: 19
Posts: 32
Post #2 - Posted 03/09/2008 7:23 PM
The setup changes to use this hardware at Hong Kong are:

Brake Balance: 5/8
Springs: 6.3/9.5
Ride Height: 114/114
Damper Bound: 4/5
Damper Rebound: 9/8
Toe: 0/0
Stabaliser: 2/3
Gears: 3.889 @ AutoSet 11 (tweak individuals to personal taste for where the changes are)

TCS = 1 (not a shameful thing on cold tyres coming out of slow corners with 600 odd HP Big Grin)

Downforce 20/20

LSD: 6/24/12

Weight Balance: 166kg @ -5

That's a lot of changes I know and I considered posting up a seperate set-up but I already have umpteen Esprit set-ups on the board and was embarassed to add another with exactly the same hardware.
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Last on: 09/03/2008
Setups: 19
Posts: 32
Post #3 - Updated 03/09/2008 8:39 PM
For Trial Mountain, alter the Hong Kong settings to:

Brake balance: 4/5

Springs: 8.0/10.5
Damper Bound: 4/4
Toe: -1/+1 (for more 'input' tolerant handling - otherwise 0/0)

Downforce: 20/25

LSD: 6/20/15

Weight Balance: 166kg @ -20
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Last on: 09/03/2008
Setups: 19
Posts: 32
Post #4 - Updated 03/15/2008 9:37 PM
For Tokyo R246:

Brakes: 5/4
Springs: 7.3/12.3
Ride: 114/114
Damper B: 4/6
Damper R: 9/8
Camber: 2.6/1.3
Toe: +1/-1
Stabaliser: 3/4

Gearbox: AutoSet 13 @ 3.889

Downforce: 20/23

LSD: 6/15/15 (some drivers may find that 5/10/15 gives a more predicitable feel)

Weight Balance: 166 @ -20

I never got her so that you could barrel flat through the fast, dropping left hander prior to the Box Curves. I tried and tried and it always required a dab of the brakes giving an 'alongside the wall' speed of about 140 - 145mph. Any faster than that and I bounced off the wall.
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